You can't really call the game NTR atm and the OTD mode which was a great addition to the game frankly. Clearly makes it not happen at all, he even says he's going to put in replacement scenes. I can see how people would see it as kinda cuckish though with the whole mc has the one smallest dick in the game thing basically. The futa having a bigger cock is beyond annoying, at least the animals make some sort of sense about that. Either way I remain pretty hopeful currently at the devs response to the feedback, you're being overly hostile to him honestly. It's an early on demo and he's been pretty responsive to feedback, you should chill.
Don't know if that is actually intended though regarding the futa. Was that intended DakodaNova? Is she actually bigger dick wise or what? I'm assuming its unintended, because of how much you empathize the MCs assets but I dunno. I'm hoping the MC is winning that contest so we can impress the Gnoll girl when the MC can fuck her.
I'm always surprised how strongly people feel about this. It's not my thing either, but some people just have that fetish, you know? If anything the animal content in this is quite a bit more extreme.
I believe the outrage has more to do with the early misplaced tags and lack of them upon the first release. In the beginning, the game was tagged with romance with no signs of NTR, futanari, Voyeur nor monster sex (can't recall if the last tag was on or not on release). Plus, if you had gone into the game with the initial tags as an impression, you would have thought it was a standard dating sim (maybe a harem game to some*), only to find out that some of the LI's (Love Interests: the people you can romance) are already into Monsters (sister and the bird-girl are into the Bird) and even into other characters (surprise 6-feet-cock futa-elf with Hyena girl, and pair of guards), all of the above had scenes included on the release that showcased it. Oh and virtually every other character with a dong are "better equipped" than the MC, by a looooooong margin (except the shota/male guard).
On top of that, the initial release left the MC behind with little to almost no content. Of those scenes left, there were only 2 for the MC, and one of them you had to reach it by going through/being forced to witness the sister servicing the Bird (i.e bj to the bird) before being able to access the content with her, of the MC jerking off to her... as for the second scene, there was an RNG sex-scene with the blond amazon looking girl (captain), where she compliments your dong as being 'big' (which seemed a bit hollow after seeing every other scene with the rest of the cast with dwarfing dongs). Finally, some of the scenes had some RNG behind them, so they were also hard to view.
Though, it seems the Dev recognized some of these things and is taking action.
*Just to add, on itch.io there is no Harem tag, NTR, Voyeur tag or even cheating tag. So with the initial misleading romance tag and the absence of the other tags = 'outrage'.
TLDR:
- Misplaced tags (Romance). Creates the idea of a dating sim. Romance/dating sim audience comes in.
- Lack of tags, some due to the tagging system of itch.io. Later on, some tags actually surface and become a surprise after first release to the Romance audience: Monster sex, cheating/NTR, futanari. Plus removal of Romance tag.
- Disparity of content with MC and rest of the cast (20% vs 80%). With 80% of scenes going into 'voyeuristic' territory (or cheating/NTR if you will since they are LI's) with the 'LI' going at it with other characters or monsters.
Well that's what is currently available, and what the author (somehow) thought would 'entice' the romance/dating sim/incest audience. He/she seems to have realized the problem with that and is at least making an effort to change it (with the different game-mode and adding/removing tags).
I agree, but I think even with the tag changes the complaining will keep happening unless the mc gets a way higher amount of the content ratio. Just because he choose a male mc and surrounded him with girls. Because unless the game is tagged as ntr, thats what people coming into these games are looking for and expecting. Not massive amounts of voyeurism content.
Hi, thanks for the comment! For the new mode, the event writing and sequencing has been reworked to make it as though the scenes in question never happen. For now, this means there's a significant chunk of content missing, but moving forward I will do my best to add new content with parity.
I'm willing to give the game more of a chance but there is a lot about this idea that seems misleading or not really thought out. What audience are you going for here? Most people interested in playing as a Male pc aren't really interested in watching other people fuck. That defeats the entire purpose of the Male player character in the first place, it's also a turn off to just see all of the girls obsessed with animal cocks that are 10 times the size of the mcs. People don't want to share the girls with other dudes or animals for that matter, so I recommend an option for that content not happen at all unless the player goes for it. People would want basically a harem of the main girls.
Secondly you're clearly trying to show off that the male player character is mr big dick, but you kinda ruin that with everyone except some twink having a dick that is massively bigger than the player character. Was it it intended for the futa to be like 4 times the mcs size? Because thats how its drawn, its pretty emasculating to have some female with a massively bigger cock then you banging one of the main girls. Please tell me that isn't intended for the elf and that is a magical dildo or spell and she's not actually futa.
And what sort of player character to non player character content ratio are you going for here? I'd expect the player character to be like 80 to 90% of the scenes, otherwise why does he exist and why are you not just going with a female pc or something? I wouldn't have interest in that, but it would be more fitting if the male player character isn't the focus.
As long as the focus more on the MC and make the cuck stuff optional the game would be really good. Mc needs at least around 50% of the content. Would also like a non futa version for the elf.
Not really no, because its a demo and very little to rework atm. The one true dick mode puts the game more in the direction that actually makes sense for what it was originally tagged as, but the issue will how the content ratio plays out. So I'm hoping the creator explains what the actual focus of the game is, no one is going to be that bothered if optional non player character related content is added from time to time as long as the vast majority of the scenes are the player character banging the women in the game. You don't play a male player character to watch other characters gets laid, that defeats the purpose of him. You might as well not actually have a protagonist at all at that point, he serves no actual purpose. But this game is early on, creator hasn't really explained his intentions so who knows.
YOU don't play a male player character to watch other characters get laid, but other people do. I think this is a great game with great art and I just want to see more of it.
Most people do otherwise there wouldn't be this level of complaining in the threads about the game or in this comment section. Most games about male player characters except for literal NTR games which is an entirely different genre than this game is going for, are about the mc fucking all of the girls for a reason. Because thats the point of having one, if you don't want to make it about the male player character doing the fucking. Change the character, change the marketing, remove the male player character in its entirety because it doesn't fit your audience.
Came for the romance tag but every girl fucks everything that move but the mc. Please remove the tag. Not to mention no futa tag. Why not make it an option to whether they are a girl or not.
The SubStar page is still under review at the moment, but hopefully it will be live soon. Thank you so much for your interest! Really glad you enjoyed the launch build.
What an absolute waste of potential this game is. Like who is the player base for this game? Spend a hour playing, only to finally get a unavoidable sex scene thats bestiality. 99% of players dont want to see that. At least give the player some agency to prevent it from happening.
In all my time of playing the game, a hour in 15 minutes, I have yet to get a scene with the player. You do realize that a good chuck of players self insert right? So not only is all the content I've seen so far voyeurism with Love interests, but there has been nothing for the player.
All the girls, even you own sister, are complete whore and the player has zero say in it.
You seriously need to think about who this game is for, and whether you want it to be successful or not. You should consider rewriting all the scenes to make them preventable and focus more on the player.
Don't talk about 99% of players and "a good chunk of players" when you have no basis for those statements. You don't like these things, but you have no insight into the rest of the playerbase, so don't make a blanket statement about the things you like.
He's entirely right, because you can just go look at games about male pcs vs female pcs. Female pcs are what you're looking for content where the mc isn't the one fucking everyone.
A better system for finding/tracking "quests" is definitely something on the roadmap. Though, for now you can check the journal in the MC's bedroom for tips on how to discover new scenes.
If you have any specific thoughts on how to make the experience more streamlined, I'm happy to hear them!
Well I have been feeling lost as there is no story really that would hold your hand and guide you. So in the two hours I played, I found two events, and was just walking around endlessly. Could be also my own stupidity. The aforementioned "quest" tracker would be a really nice addition to be honest. But as I said before, the art is nice, and so are the events. What most people complain about is just their own taste to be honest. Imagine going to a BDSM store and complain about everything being related to BDSM. But yea. I think the idea is good, seems really good. Just keep up the good work fam, and stay positive about it. If you'd like to further discuss stuff, feel free to add me on discord. 63 68 69 63 6b 65 6e 62 6f 79#7616
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You can't really call the game NTR atm and the OTD mode which was a great addition to the game frankly. Clearly makes it not happen at all, he even says he's going to put in replacement scenes. I can see how people would see it as kinda cuckish though with the whole mc has the one smallest dick in the game thing basically. The futa having a bigger cock is beyond annoying, at least the animals make some sort of sense about that. Either way I remain pretty hopeful currently at the devs response to the feedback, you're being overly hostile to him honestly. It's an early on demo and he's been pretty responsive to feedback, you should chill.
Don't know if that is actually intended though regarding the futa. Was that intended DakodaNova? Is she actually bigger dick wise or what? I'm assuming its unintended, because of how much you empathize the MCs assets but I dunno. I'm hoping the MC is winning that contest so we can impress the Gnoll girl when the MC can fuck her.
I'm always surprised how strongly people feel about this. It's not my thing either, but some people just have that fetish, you know? If anything the animal content in this is quite a bit more extreme.
I believe the outrage has more to do with the early misplaced tags and lack of them upon the first release. In the beginning, the game was tagged with romance with no signs of NTR, futanari, Voyeur nor monster sex (can't recall if the last tag was on or not on release). Plus, if you had gone into the game with the initial tags as an impression, you would have thought it was a standard dating sim (maybe a harem game to some*), only to find out that some of the LI's (Love Interests: the people you can romance) are already into Monsters (sister and the bird-girl are into the Bird) and even into other characters (surprise 6-feet-cock futa-elf with Hyena girl, and pair of guards), all of the above had scenes included on the release that showcased it. Oh and virtually every other character with a dong are "better equipped" than the MC, by a looooooong margin (except the shota/male guard).
On top of that, the initial release left the MC behind with little to almost no content. Of those scenes left, there were only 2 for the MC, and one of them you had to reach it by going through/being forced to witness the sister servicing the Bird (i.e bj to the bird) before being able to access the content with her, of the MC jerking off to her... as for the second scene, there was an RNG sex-scene with the blond amazon looking girl (captain), where she compliments your dong as being 'big' (which seemed a bit hollow after seeing every other scene with the rest of the cast with dwarfing dongs). Finally, some of the scenes had some RNG behind them, so they were also hard to view.
Though, it seems the Dev recognized some of these things and is taking action.
*Just to add, on itch.io there is no Harem tag, NTR, Voyeur tag or even cheating tag. So with the initial misleading romance tag and the absence of the other tags = 'outrage'.
TLDR:
- Misplaced tags (Romance). Creates the idea of a dating sim. Romance/dating sim audience comes in.
- Lack of tags, some due to the tagging system of itch.io. Later on, some tags actually surface and become a surprise after first release to the Romance audience: Monster sex, cheating/NTR, futanari. Plus removal of Romance tag.
- Disparity of content with MC and rest of the cast (20% vs 80%). With 80% of scenes going into 'voyeuristic' territory (or cheating/NTR if you will since they are LI's) with the 'LI' going at it with other characters or monsters.
It all transforms into outrage.
The game is going way to far into "voyeurism" currently.
Well that's what is currently available, and what the author (somehow) thought would 'entice' the romance/dating sim/incest audience. He/she seems to have realized the problem with that and is at least making an effort to change it (with the different game-mode and adding/removing tags).
I agree, but I think even with the tag changes the complaining will keep happening unless the mc gets a way higher amount of the content ratio. Just because he choose a male mc and surrounded him with girls. Because unless the game is tagged as ntr, thats what people coming into these games are looking for and expecting. Not massive amounts of voyeurism content.
How do you access literally any scenes in this game?
I have cycled nights looking at literally every single possible area the tip book mentions and nothing has happened or changed a single time.
What am I missing?
Do you have the latest build?
The new hotfix streamlines the "quest" mechanic a bit.
Let me know if you're still having issues!
Hi, thanks for the comment!
For the new mode, the event writing and sequencing has been reworked to make it as though the scenes in question never happen.
For now, this means there's a significant chunk of content missing, but moving forward I will do my best to add new content with parity.
since you went out of your way to give the player more choice ill update my rating.
I'm glad I was able to help!
Really hope you enjoy the future updates.
Seems like a good move so far, can you address some of the questions I had in my longer post earlier? About like the elf and and content ratio etc.
I'm willing to give the game more of a chance but there is a lot about this idea that seems misleading or not really thought out. What audience are you going for here? Most people interested in playing as a Male pc aren't really interested in watching other people fuck. That defeats the entire purpose of the Male player character in the first place, it's also a turn off to just see all of the girls obsessed with animal cocks that are 10 times the size of the mcs. People don't want to share the girls with other dudes or animals for that matter, so I recommend an option for that content not happen at all unless the player goes for it. People would want basically a harem of the main girls.
Secondly you're clearly trying to show off that the male player character is mr big dick, but you kinda ruin that with everyone except some twink having a dick that is massively bigger than the player character. Was it it intended for the futa to be like 4 times the mcs size? Because thats how its drawn, its pretty emasculating to have some female with a massively bigger cock then you banging one of the main girls. Please tell me that isn't intended for the elf and that is a magical dildo or spell and she's not actually futa.
And what sort of player character to non player character content ratio are you going for here? I'd expect the player character to be like 80 to 90% of the scenes, otherwise why does he exist and why are you not just going with a female pc or something? I wouldn't have interest in that, but it would be more fitting if the male player character isn't the focus.
As long as the focus more on the MC and make the cuck stuff optional the game would be really good. Mc needs at least around 50% of the content. Would also like a non futa version for the elf.
I'd expect way more than 50% of the content honestly. Thats already in territory of him not needing to even exist at that point.
If you don't like the content, you don't have to play. You're asking the creators to rework most of the game.
Not really no, because its a demo and very little to rework atm. The one true dick mode puts the game more in the direction that actually makes sense for what it was originally tagged as, but the issue will how the content ratio plays out. So I'm hoping the creator explains what the actual focus of the game is, no one is going to be that bothered if optional non player character related content is added from time to time as long as the vast majority of the scenes are the player character banging the women in the game. You don't play a male player character to watch other characters gets laid, that defeats the purpose of him. You might as well not actually have a protagonist at all at that point, he serves no actual purpose. But this game is early on, creator hasn't really explained his intentions so who knows.
YOU don't play a male player character to watch other characters get laid, but other people do. I think this is a great game with great art and I just want to see more of it.
Most people do otherwise there wouldn't be this level of complaining in the threads about the game or in this comment section. Most games about male player characters except for literal NTR games which is an entirely different genre than this game is going for, are about the mc fucking all of the girls for a reason. Because thats the point of having one, if you don't want to make it about the male player character doing the fucking. Change the character, change the marketing, remove the male player character in its entirety because it doesn't fit your audience.
Im with you on that. Kill bird.
Came for the romance tag but every girl fucks everything that move but the mc. Please remove the tag. Not to mention no futa tag. Why not make it an option to whether they are a girl or not.
I also hope the girl isn't actually a perma futa and its just magic or something. That ruins the character.
The SubStar page is still under review at the moment, but hopefully it will be live soon.
Thank you so much for your interest! Really glad you enjoyed the launch build.
What an absolute waste of potential this game is. Like who is the player base for this game? Spend a hour playing, only to finally get a unavoidable sex scene thats bestiality. 99% of players dont want to see that. At least give the player some agency to prevent it from happening.
In all my time of playing the game, a hour in 15 minutes, I have yet to get a scene with the player. You do realize that a good chuck of players self insert right? So not only is all the content I've seen so far voyeurism with Love interests, but there has been nothing for the player.
All the girls, even you own sister, are complete whore and the player has zero say in it.
You seriously need to think about who this game is for, and whether you want it to be successful or not. You should consider rewriting all the scenes to make them preventable and focus more on the player.
Terrible game, with great potential.
Thanks for the feedback!
A check system for avoiding certain content is definitely in the works! For now, this is just an initial proof of concept.
If you're having trouble finding more scenes, the Tips Journal in the MC's room might help point you in the right direction.
Don't talk about 99% of players and "a good chunk of players" when you have no basis for those statements. You don't like these things, but you have no insight into the rest of the playerbase, so don't make a blanket statement about the things you like.
He's entirely right, because you can just go look at games about male pcs vs female pcs. Female pcs are what you're looking for content where the mc isn't the one fucking everyone.
The game is quite good, along with the art. I am quite lost most of the time though. :D
Thank you for playing!
A better system for finding/tracking "quests" is definitely something on the roadmap. Though, for now you can check the journal in the MC's bedroom for tips on how to discover new scenes.
If you have any specific thoughts on how to make the experience more streamlined, I'm happy to hear them!
Well I have been feeling lost as there is no story really that would hold your hand and guide you. So in the two hours I played, I found two events, and was just walking around endlessly. Could be also my own stupidity. The aforementioned "quest" tracker would be a really nice addition to be honest. But as I said before, the art is nice, and so are the events. What most people complain about is just their own taste to be honest. Imagine going to a BDSM store and complain about everything being related to BDSM. But yea. I think the idea is good, seems really good. Just keep up the good work fam, and stay positive about it. If you'd like to further discuss stuff, feel free to add me on discord. 63 68 69 63 6b 65 6e 62 6f 79#7616
Thanks for the feedback!
I released a hotfix yesterday that I think will help a lot with your experience.
Give it a shot if you have the time!